Posts by Bona Dea

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CBS's Hitler', Digging at the Roots of Evil (washingtonpost)

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Bona Dea

German soldiers had a belt buckle with the words “God is with us”

WTS is the only true channel through which Jehovah God operates....

during calamitous times, people follow psychopathic leaders that promise utopia and provide scapegoats to blame for the current conditions

during calamitous times, Jehovah’s witnesses rely on Jehovah’s direction through the Faithful and discreet slave, to lead them into a harmonious and everlasting life on paradise earth…Satan is to blame for the present condition of the world, as we near the end of the current system of things

there are plenty of racist people in the world who would be willing to do the same thing to their perceived enemies if they were put in absolute power of a modern industrial nation.

November 15 th 1952, Questions from Readers states: We are not living today among theocratic nations where such members of our fleshly family relationship could be exterminated for apostasy from God and his theocratic organization, as was possible and was ordered in the nation of Israel in the wilderness of Sinai and in the land of Palestine (Deut 13:6-11, AS). Being limited by the laws of the worldly nation in which we live and also by the laws of God through Jesus Christ, we can take action against apostates only to a certain extent, that is, consistent with both sets of laws. The law of the land and God’s law through Christ forbid us to kill apostates, even though they be members of our own flesh-and-blood family relationship.

He couldn’t accomplish what he did without a lot of people agreeing with him

6 million members worldwide…

So would a nation, no matter who they are, recognize another Hitler in the making?

Scary, huh?

Sadie

....hope you can see my comments this time.....

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Name a few errors in the bible

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as you know the bible is a translation from greek and hebrew.

what would be the biggest errors in the bible?

and how about the new world translation bible, what errors did they make?.

Bona Dea

How was it that in Numbers 13:33 the Israelites encounter the sons of Anak? The Anakites came from the Nephilim who, as I am sure you all well know according to Genesis 6:2-4, originated in pre-flood times. If everything and everyone on earth had been destroyed during the flood except those on the Ark (Gen 6:17), then where did these folks come from?

Sadie

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Anybody ever try the Atkins Diet?

by El Kabong in

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ok, this has probably been discussed before, but, how many here have tried the atkins diet?

did you have a good/bad experience with this diet.

the reason i ask is because i went to my doctor and my bp is way up.

Bona Dea

Lyin Eyes, I ate breakfast (cereal with skim milk, jelly toast, turkey bacon, cheese flavored grits, something along those lines), small snack (like low-fat yogurt or ice cream, a fruit, some fat-free or lowfat something - cookies, chips...or something like that), lunch (pretty much anything except fried foods...baked potato, bbq baked chicken, a veggie -peas, corn, beans, tomatoes-, ham sandwich - Bryan's deli style smoked ham is awesome-, salad with low-fat dressing -I like fatfree italian-, spaghetti with lean ground turkey, etc) , another snack, dinner, and another snack....LOL...lots of eating going on. But I didn't feel tired at all. As a matter of fact I had an abundance of energy. Anyway...hope it works for you. Different things work for different folks. Good luck!!!!! Keep us updated if you have any luck...

Sadie

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Are you better than Jehovah?

by Bona Dea in

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i was thinking the other night (my head is still hurtingcould you imagine having the power to stop it and choosing not to?

i kept thinking, if i could die so that no other innocent person should have to suffer, then i would.

most people would, i think.

Bona Dea

I'd wager that far more people have commited evil acts because god told them to, than have done so because satan spoke to them. Wonder why that is?

Yes...and I agree. And it kills me when I talk to christians about things like this and they try to make excuses like "well, they are obviously not real christians." I'm like, are you and I reading the same book here? Can't they see where these wackos get their ideas? I mean, you got a god here that all but throws a party when people die in HIS name. The good old Jehovah of Armies. How do you reckon he earned that title? You have a god who has zero tolerance for the likes of unbelievers, homosexuals, witches, lepers, slightly flawed people, and disobedient children. You have a people who follow a god, whom they believe is going to punish "the wicked" by completely obliterating them from existence or is going to burn them for all of eternity in hell. So, we're supposed to be all surprised when we come across sites like "godhatesfags" or hear of people who beat their kids with the excuse of the age-old adage "spare the rod, spoil the child"....

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Are you better than Jehovah?

by Bona Dea in

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i was thinking the other night (my head is still hurtingcould you imagine having the power to stop it and choosing not to?

i kept thinking, if i could die so that no other innocent person should have to suffer, then i would.

most people would, i think.

Bona Dea

Also, Sword of Jah, we as imperfect humans only have the capacity to do so much. As JamesT said, if we had the power to prevent the ailments that make surgery a necessity, then no doubt we would exercise that power and illiminate the cause altogether. Does God have the power to do this? And if he does, then why doesn't he do it? As a parent, if I had the power to allow my child to be born free of pain, suffering, etc. or let them live a life full of strife and hardships, knowing I could let them die and bring them back, which do you suppose I would choose? What would choosing the latter prove? What a jerk of a parent I would be to let my kids hurt when I could do something to stop it. What a jerk of a parent I would be to give nothing to my kids, completely ignore them for thousands of years, give them a screwy book that can be interpreted a million different ways to guide them, and then blame them and deny them resurrection and/or punish them for all of eternity for being angry with me, losing faith in me, and refusing to do things my way (whatever way that is, because the book I gave them can be interpreted a million different ways).

Sadie

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Are you better than Jehovah?

by Bona Dea in

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i was thinking the other night (my head is still hurtingcould you imagine having the power to stop it and choosing not to?

i kept thinking, if i could die so that no other innocent person should have to suffer, then i would.

most people would, i think.

Bona Dea

"Have not parents who truly love their children permitted them to undergo a painful operation to correct some problem? Yes, the permission of temporary suffering has often made it possible for children to enjoy better health later on in life. "

Who would allow their child to be cut open without having them put to sleep first? Ever heard of anesthesia? Pain pills? It's called numbing the pain...making it as tolerable as you possibly can, which is what any decent parent would do for their child. Has God done this? How can allowing your child to be raped or beaten to death benefit them and secure them a better life later on?

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Are you better than Jehovah?

by Bona Dea in

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i was thinking the other night (my head is still hurtingcould you imagine having the power to stop it and choosing not to?

i kept thinking, if i could die so that no other innocent person should have to suffer, then i would.

most people would, i think.

Bona Dea

Thanks for all the thoughts. This is an issue I've been struggling with for a while. Not just the belief in Jehovah, Yahweh, the christian god...but just in any god, any higher being, any creator. I've given up on believing that the bible god is real and that the bible is inerrant, due to the research I've done on the bible, the histories of various religions and their similarities to the bible stories etc. Right now, it's just a matter of trying to figure out whether I believe that there is any being who created us. If so, what's his or her problem? Doesn't this creature care about us? Apparently not.

Since he has the power to resurrect those children in a better setting, it wasn't necessary to intervene at this time.

SOJ, what about the present? What’s the point of even living? Why don’t we just go ahead and get it all over with if we’re just going to be resurrected to a better life anyway? So what if they can be resurrected (and that's a big IF and cannot be proven)...what about the pain, the very real pain they suffer now? It’s not like everyone gets to choose to go out quick. Some people hurt for decades, suffering from a broad range of ailments. Some people die a slow death due to insufficient food and/or water. Some children suffer at the hands of their own parents, being beaten, raped, and tortured until they either grow up to finally leave the situation, tell someone and try to get help (hopefully not an elder), or unfortunately die at the hands of their perpetrator. The fact that they get to be resurrected (which mind you some of them will not be according to various bible teachings) is supposed to make it all okay? This concept lends little comfort to the pain that one has to suffer in THIS life. Thanks for your input…

It was this sentiment that inspired the Beatle's song "The Fool on the Hill".

I didn’t know that. I’ll have to fill my dub hub in on that bit of info. He loves that song.

An imperfect man possesses more compassion than that. Lowly humans make sacrifices so as to prevent suffering or aid other people when possible, yet an Almighty God who is supposed to be the very example we are emulating does nothing?

Thanks Reborn. That’s my point exactly!!!

Sadie

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Are you better than Jehovah?

by Bona Dea in

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i was thinking the other night (my head is still hurtingcould you imagine having the power to stop it and choosing not to?

i kept thinking, if i could die so that no other innocent person should have to suffer, then i would.

most people would, i think.

Bona Dea

I'm speaking mainly of Jehovah....the bible god. I am not informed enough to make any kind of judgements about the gods of other religions. And I'm not atheist. I still like to believe there is some entity out there somewhere who cares about mankind. But...I just don't know. When I see little children have to suffer such horrific acts, I wonder what kind of "god", be it the Christian god or just any old god, sit back and let things like this happen? If it is in our creator's power to stop things like this from happening, then why doesn't he/she?

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Anybody ever try the Atkins Diet?

by El Kabong in

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ok, this has probably been discussed before, but, how many here have tried the atkins diet?

did you have a good/bad experience with this diet.

the reason i ask is because i went to my doctor and my bp is way up.

Bona Dea

Lyin Eyes,

When I was on the low-fat, all I did was watch my fat intake (30 g or less) which is, IMHO, a lot easier than counting calories. Most veggies/fruits have 0 fat; most bread, pasta, tomato sauces usually have 1-3 g; soda's have 0. It's really easy to keep up with, maybe because the number is so low. Although you have to bypass things like butter and oil, I just opted to bake most of my food rather than frying and use low-fat butter, Molly Mcbutter, and natural seasonings such as herbs and spices on things like pasta and potatoes...which is healthier anyway. The diet I was on was the Cory Everson diet, and the plan was to eat every three hours. I ate and ate and ate. The idea is to keep your energy level up (food is energy!) and keep your metabolism going. The plan is also to exercise at least 6 days a week - and I'm not sure if this is the same diet that Francois is talking about, as there were many different ones circulating when low-fat diets were "the" fad - but I exercised anywhere from 4-7 days, depending on how I felt. But I tried to get in at least 4 days. I usually just walked or rode my stationary bike. It really was the easiest diet I ever tried. And I was very pleased with the results.

Sadie

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Are you better than Jehovah?

by Bona Dea in

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i was thinking the other night (my head is still hurtingcould you imagine having the power to stop it and choosing not to?

i kept thinking, if i could die so that no other innocent person should have to suffer, then i would.

most people would, i think.

Bona Dea

I was thinking the other night (my head is still hurting), this was right after I heard the news of Deanna Laney (tyler, texas) killing her two sons and attempting to kill the third...and I was wondering if Jehovah is real, did he watch it happen? I mean, he sees all, right? Well, what does he do? Does he just sit there, knowing what is about to happen and chooses to do nothing to prevent it? When I read about those kids, I cried. Those poor babies...I cried because could you imagine watching the one person in the world whom you trust to protect you coming down on your head with a rock and beating the very life out of you? Could you imagine how horrific those murders must have been? Could you imagine having the power to stop it and choosing not to? I kept thinking, if I could die so that no other innocent person should have to suffer, then I would. Most people would, I think.

Then I began thinking about the typical Christian response to these kinds of situations. Free will. We all have free will...yada, yada. But good god, shouldn't free will have some sort of limitations? I mean, if I were God, I would be like: fine, do whatever you want as long as it doesn't hurt someone else. Once I saw that someone was about to step over that line, zap. And I'm not going on about the pain of everyday life, i.e. the arguments, relationships, the let downs, the scratches from falls, not these little things. These things are bearable. These things you can deal with and go on with your life. I'm talking about gore, absolute suffering, mental/physical torment, things I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. The utterly cruel things that people do to one another...the things that are just as much a part of life as slamming your finger in the car door.

I most certainly could not sit back and allow - just for the sake of free will, proving my universal sovereignity, or whatever the reason - my children to suffer excruitiating deaths where they sometimes slowly starve and thirst to death just because of greedy governments, are sometimes mutilated, molested, raped, or tortured because of some pervert's "free will", or sometimes wither at the hands of cancer or some other disease that eat up their insides at a dreadfully slow and agonizing pace just because death is inevitable (and there's another issue altogether), but hey, I'm God...couldn't I make it just a little less painful? Just have a tiny bit of mercy and allow them a quick death? Instead, would I just sit there in my loftiness and see my children die these deaths that sometimes take hours, days, months, years and not bother to do a thing about it? Aye, to prove to Satan that they will love and serve me no matter what! Is this sick, or is it just me?

What kind of parent would do that?

Sadie